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	<title>Comments on: Google Adsense Warning: A Follow-Up</title>
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		<title>By: What&#8217;s Up Wednesdays: Sabotage, Violations, and Bullshit &#124;&#124; Beyond the Rhetoric &#124;&#124;</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-19031</link>
		<dc:creator>What&#8217;s Up Wednesdays: Sabotage, Violations, and Bullshit &#124;&#124; Beyond the Rhetoric &#124;&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 22:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] most other bloggers, makes money online (in part) through Google Adsense. In an effort to avoid getting banned, Etienne dishes out 22 mistakes that you never would have known could violate Google Adsense. There [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] most other bloggers, makes money online (in part) through Google Adsense. In an effort to avoid getting banned, Etienne dishes out 22 mistakes that you never would have known could violate Google Adsense. There [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Importance of Being Specific</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-16662</link>
		<dc:creator>The Importance of Being Specific</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 20:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that sets the bar one or two notches higher. Many beginning bloggers aim to make a dollar a day in Adsense. Upon reaching this milestone, they set a new goal to make two dollars a day. Five dollars a day. A [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that sets the bar one or two notches higher. Many beginning bloggers aim to make a dollar a day in Adsense. Upon reaching this milestone, they set a new goal to make two dollars a day. Five dollars a day. A [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Reviewing the Real Money Makers &#124;&#124; Beyond the Rhetoric &#124;&#124;</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-15813</link>
		<dc:creator>Reviewing the Real Money Makers &#124;&#124; Beyond the Rhetoric &#124;&#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up.aspx#comment-15813</guid>
		<description>[...] This is not the best strategy to take; it&#8217;s best to spread out your income sources so that if one of them fails, you&#8217;ve got the rest to keep the money rolling [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is not the best strategy to take; it&#8217;s best to spread out your income sources so that if one of them fails, you&#8217;ve got the rest to keep the money rolling [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14553</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, that last sentence of the second paragraph should say "limited data G provides."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, that last sentence of the second paragraph should say &#8220;limited data G provides.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Michele</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14552</link>
		<dc:creator>Michele</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 22:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad part of this philosophy of G's is that with these paid to click sites springing up, they have become a good way to torpedo the competition.

Google has been allowed to hide behind this "We won't give out our algorithms" crap. I have little doubt they knew exactly where the fraudulent clicks were originating from. So what's the big deal if they tell you - like any Adsense user should be surprised they have that information? To some extent a truly innocent party would not always know where the fraud is coming from and it seems a bit ridiculous to expect site owners to figure it out with the limited date G provides.

Hopefully your warning is more a sign of them becoming more customer friendly and less about your stature in the blogging community (no insult intended).

And wouldn't you just love to know if the companies that paid for those $200,000 worth of denied Adsense income were actually reimbursed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad part of this philosophy of G&#8217;s is that with these paid to click sites springing up, they have become a good way to torpedo the competition.</p>
<p>Google has been allowed to hide behind this &#8220;We won&#8217;t give out our algorithms&#8221; crap. I have little doubt they knew exactly where the fraudulent clicks were originating from. So what&#8217;s the big deal if they tell you - like any Adsense user should be surprised they have that information? To some extent a truly innocent party would not always know where the fraud is coming from and it seems a bit ridiculous to expect site owners to figure it out with the limited date G provides.</p>
<p>Hopefully your warning is more a sign of them becoming more customer friendly and less about your stature in the blogging community (no insult intended).</p>
<p>And wouldn&#8217;t you just love to know if the companies that paid for those $200,000 worth of denied Adsense income were actually reimbursed?</p>
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		<title>By: cooliojones</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14544</link>
		<dc:creator>cooliojones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is pure BS.  Here you are trying to do the right thing, and their response was like, "Good for you, but we still aren't gonna help.  Go read some of our policies and see if anything has changed."

:(  Doesn't make me happy or comfortable one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is pure BS.  Here you are trying to do the right thing, and their response was like, &#8220;Good for you, but we still aren&#8217;t gonna help.  Go read some of our policies and see if anything has changed.&#8221;</p>
<p> <img src='http://btr.michaelkwan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Doesn&#8217;t make me happy or comfortable one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisblogging.com</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14526</link>
		<dc:creator>chrisblogging.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 16:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least you didnt get banned. Hopefully you will be able to put this behind you, and nothing silly will pop up like this in the future...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least you didnt get banned. Hopefully you will be able to put this behind you, and nothing silly will pop up like this in the future&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: dcr</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14463</link>
		<dc:creator>dcr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 03:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a site booted from AdSense, but I was not banned from AdSense.  I think they must have some system in place (albeit an imperfect one) to determine the cheaters.  In other words, they must be able to determine if a site is (a) complicit in click fraud or (b) a probable innocent party to click fraud.

If you're in the (a) group, you'll get banned.  If you're in the (b) group, you'll get a warning.  But, the rub is that if you're an innocent party, you may not know where the fraudulent clicks are coming from!  And, since Google won't tell you, I guess you need to have your own procedures in place to try to prevent click fraud from happening on your site.  Though, it would be nice if Google was a more active partner in the process.

What if you blocked Dragon Mail, but it turned out to be Troll Mail* that was responsible, but they were better at masking their referrals?


*I just made that up.  If there is a real Troll Mail, this certainly is not an accusation against them--just a name I made up while posting this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a site booted from AdSense, but I was not banned from AdSense.  I think they must have some system in place (albeit an imperfect one) to determine the cheaters.  In other words, they must be able to determine if a site is (a) complicit in click fraud or (b) a probable innocent party to click fraud.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in the (a) group, you&#8217;ll get banned.  If you&#8217;re in the (b) group, you&#8217;ll get a warning.  But, the rub is that if you&#8217;re an innocent party, you may not know where the fraudulent clicks are coming from!  And, since Google won&#8217;t tell you, I guess you need to have your own procedures in place to try to prevent click fraud from happening on your site.  Though, it would be nice if Google was a more active partner in the process.</p>
<p>What if you blocked Dragon Mail, but it turned out to be Troll Mail* that was responsible, but they were better at masking their referrals?</p>
<p>*I just made that up.  If there is a real Troll Mail, this certainly is not an accusation against them&#8211;just a name I made up while posting this!</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://btr.michaelkwan.com/2007/08/02/google-adsense-warning-a-follow-up/#comment-14441</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yea rich twin site's got banned and 200k went down the drain without a warning. You're pretty lucky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yea rich twin site&#8217;s got banned and 200k went down the drain without a warning. You&#8217;re pretty lucky.</p>
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